Session Start (linuxguy.magicstar.net:#indie_ooc): Wed Sep 10 19:13:35 2003 *** Now talking in #indie_ooc. *** Users on #indie_ooc: @Xiombrag *** End of /NAMES list. *** Mode change "+sntr" for channel #indie_ooc by ChanServ *** ChanServ has changed the topic on channel #indie_ooc to Indie Net-gaming OOC Discussion Room (Paganini) -ChanServ- Welcome to the Indie Net-gaming OOC discussion room. Join #indie_nar for game narration. Please do not solicit for games in this room. -ChanServ- This channel has been registered with ChanServ. *** Mode change "-o Xiombrag" for channel #indie_ooc by ChanServ *** Mode for channel #indie_ooc is "+stnr" *** Channel #indie_ooc was created at Wed Sep 10 21:16:23 2003 *** Join to #indie_ooc completed in 5 seconds. *** Dana_mun (~schitza_p@pool-151-205-168-53.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined channel #indie_ooc ok *** Lxndr (lxndr@ip68-99-233-68.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined channel #indie_ooc *** Mode change "+o Lxndr" for channel #indie_ooc by ChanServ *** MHolmes (~MHolmes@CPE-65-26-223-128.wi.rr.com) has joined channel #indie_ooc *** suffusion (~kashij@squirtle-23.dynamic.rpi.edu) has joined channel #indie_ooc *** suffusion is now known as Jason_Frix *** Lxndr is now known as Christian_Guerrera[Lx] *** Dana_mun is now known as Alica_Tyloni stop being nervous, dana. you'll do fine. dana, will you mind telling me a bit about your character? alright what do you wanna know? basic info, mostly. background sorta stuff Off the record i take it? um, whatever Incoherence alert Incoherence? yes. be coherent about incoherence Heh. I'm guessing from her posts that she's got a non-narrativist background. For example, she thought it would be inappropriate to discuss character background. Well, There are rumors and such that she might be connected to a crime organization, though her records spotless and theres been nothing to provoke any investigations into it. She's synching player and character knolwledge. okay, thanks shes also a liscenced mortician. and She was just brought in by Guerrara here? hmm heheh She ever do any Vice work? I've heard rumors that they smuggle Coke in dead bodies Well, I told her should could hide into or not, her choice. well, we've been looking for a sniper. she just fits the profile. vice work? no, shes never really been directly invovled with any activity, hence the rumors, but nothing sticking To be technical, I'm sensing a difference in "Creative Agendas". Won't matter, however, given the company. Just be aware. come again huh? so, did I bring her in, or was she just assigned? it seemed as if our team needed a sniper, even with the NPCs... * Alica_Tyloni blinks confusedly. The comment is jargon, and meant for Kirt (who I think will get it). You probably requested one and she was the one assigned. works for me I"m going to assign her IC at the start of today's scenario even better :) Mike, yes, I understand what you mean, but I think it will drift correctly in the end. No doubt. * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] obviously needs to read up more on forge jargon. question: is the outcome of Guerrera's report going to be happeningt his session? are we just gonna handle it as a narration? Hmmm No, upper management is still chewing on the report. Unless you really WANT to deal with it this session no, no, we can let is sit We'll have it in the backs of our minds throughout the session. of course Okay. I hope y'all don't mind me going a touch more cinematic this session, tho the idea for today's scenario comes from the news. okay. I know where you're going with this. COOL. I don't, but still cool! Trice cool. Give me a sec and we'll get started. ok one well? so demanding well, I could be totally wrong. but I'll try not to argue the philosophy over how well you can ever know anything Epistemology? I think that's it yes, it is Yes, that's the word. Epistemology is one of my favorite words. it's better than "cellar door" Thats an awesome word lol OOC note, y'all's superior officer is Captain Christopher Baugher I used "formicate" (yes, with an m) in my play-by-post game the other day. I love it when I have a chance to use it. what about "circuitious"? (IIRC we didn't have a name for him yet) fine by me we didn't. and that name works for me. Bald Black man, our captain? brb Sure, bald black man, why not? Baugher is the name of the well spoken actor from Homicide. I have a questiona botu ranks, purely for RP reasons homicide... that's a tv show? or a movie? tv show TV yes, I suppose I should ask: if he's a captain, what am I? and Jason? Some of the best TV ever made. i think its on abc? or do they have nypd blue? w00t! I was right Homicide only exists in reruns alas. it's just "homicide"? alone, one word? * Jason_Frix sighs Homicide: Life on the Streets I'm not sure of the police ranking system, I can look it up if it's important here we go I think Christian is a Lieutenant -- however you spell it. its not important, just roleplaying thing Police have different ranks in different jurisdictions. Loki, that's the precise spelling. Lieu= In place of Tenant + one who resides in place of it's pronounced with an f, though Only by limeys right ^_^ please tell me that was right what was? your reaction? yes LOL the posting in reply to direct address. thats what you do, correct/ Relax, Dana. :-) Stress puppy! ;-) Yes, IC utterances to indie_nar yeah, relax and have fun at least you didn't put an OOC comment in nar ;) out of character stuff here It's just entertainment, you know. We promise not to hit you. ;-D alrioght good You did very well. lol I;m also makign sure i don;t typo to badly Please don't forget the tyopes. You'll make me look bad. sorry to come back to it, but is Christian the same or higher rank as Jason? I think we're technically the same rank, but I "outrank" you on the team. At least, that's my interpretation. that is correct Jason was relieved of command after "the incident" Sounds right. Both Lieutenants likely. okay. and I can use Lt. Guerrera as a correct form of sdress? right Si and I can use Lt. Frix as a form of address, if I wanted to. nice. ranks mean I can add a sarcastic spin to your name exactly there's Candace and... I can't find my notes, who's our other NPC member? heheh erik thomson methinks? or tom erikson.. one of em erik sounds right. I'll use that for now. I"m going to switch the scene unless anyone wants to chew more scenery hmm There are two NPCs in y'all's squad, Erik Fossum, who is also a rookie (for SWAT) like Mike's character, seriously whitebread, and an Afro-American woman by the name of Candace Bundy -- she gets very mad if you make fun of the name there. I chewed juuusst a bit more. tohmson. fossom...almost you got it pretty close, phonetically heh, I made the mistake of calling her Candy Bunny once. Never again. Damnit *** MHolmes is now known as Ricky Sorry bout that. All sorts of family parading through here making me lose track. NP Is the bomb around the neck think what y'all were expecting? :) yes me, anyway I was thinking carbomb still can't understand that how can one rob a abank like that or guy on a bus with a bomb "no one move, or I get my head blown off" someone ELSE put the bomb on the guy Someone give me a random location in downtown NYC I know, but still union square times square Soho rockefeller canal street Tavern on the Green Apt. 131 3rd Street * Alica_Tyloni lives in nyc. Bellevue We'll go with Union Square. if you want really downtown, union square, or 14th Yeah, that's good. Kirt, catch that "Again?", there it is again. :-) again? again! vote we switch to the van only with the roof taken off Scene wise? yes, scene wise let's frame to the bank, unless you want to do any strategizing okay, I'm fine wiht that Strate...wha? ;-) Heh. exactly heheheh 'cept this time, I'm nto going in first ;) heh Now, the guy on the Forge who thoght that we needed to strategize more, now there's some obvious play style differences. Dana, make a Sense check to find a good spot. Yeah, seriously. Talk about not getting it. agreed, mike FYI, you roll like this #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- -RPGServ- ok #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- ok and my sense is 14. i succeded. with 4 sucesses? succeed with 10 successes -- the number you rolled OH ok UA yes, UA va? no, UA Unknown Armies Kirt, an answer to Lx question? "roll high, under skill" +5 to the Guts check for the next thing you shoot in the bank, Dana (Rule of Currency) UA is good stuff aahh sweet I'm on it so i guess that nullifies the need for a sense check before every shot for the aim, or just the first shot? Reminds me of the game Junta; this turn it's "Shoot at Bank" Yes! I love Junta. Just the first shot. are they keeping the news vans away from the bomb? I don't want this guy to be able to watch the news and figure out that we've disabled the guy and are trying to go for the bomb. you know what I mean? The rifle kicks to you' have to re-aim after firing. ok thiought so yes, they're pretty far away okay. I hope so. Can I make a Technical roll? I assure you the media is not a problem unless someone makes a Gift Yeah, that'd be Savvy #roll d20 #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- +3 for "Bright" not that you needed it So I have the thingie? Assuming there is a live signal you can triangulate and trace it. But it could be that it radios only when it needs to dentonate brb hpne hee er, phone back it has to be a live signal, otherwise, how would it detonate if jammed? isn;t gurerra the nagotiator? * negotiator What Josh said. yes, I am. but someone obviously talked to this guy before I got here. that's how they know what he's said. aahh okies Third occurence. :-) * Alica_Tyloni looks at rickey Hi hey.... Just making you nervous. third occurrence of...? :-) oh gee. thanks -.- don;t make me gift you Incoherent play. Really minor. But fun to spot. Oh, bomb on scene; I'm getting gifted good. For sure. Incoherent play? How so? Stance issues. Minor director use on Lxndr's part. sure, make a Sense check Dana oh, I'm the incoherent one now? Incoherence is a difference. #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- woot No fault. Nothing wrong with that. In theory, you can make a Gift that gets you know points so long as eveyone agrees. No one objected, so everyone agrees to the details he added. ooh, would it be an appropriate gist for her to spot someone holding some strange sort of radio device, meaning that she would have to abandon her post to check it out? 4 successes, eh? Right, but it messes with Dana's perception. Hey, I'm trying to use the triangulator. (btw, Guerrera is a better negotiator than I am, or at least, I hope so. So I'm hoping to at least try to get the dice on my side.) oo* lieks the tone of where this is going* Josh: If it's a moral choice, it's a Gift. If it's just a detail, that can be added, too, if everyone agrees. If there's a temptation to abandon her post, that's a moral choice. okay. I'm definatly still getting the hang of the gift mechanic lol Yeah, Christian, you can narrate you're being soothing and all and make a Responsiblity check to get the guy to trust you. yay! ah good. Mike, Savvy to use the triangulator, +3 for "Bright" #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- let me know when to roll Josh, do you want to try to give Dana a Gift? Or not? yes whenever you like, Alexander Do it! #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- ugh So, what's the gift? So Dana can decide if she wants to veto. hehe I forget, what can you use a story point for? ow ouch lx, man... Gift being that Dana would have to leave her post as sniper in order to deal with this guy near her is that not correct? Help me if I'm wrong here Story point can be used to raise or lower any Trait permantently by one, or replace/add a Descriptor to any Trait without a vote. Dangit. I need a gift point. * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] looks around for a victim. with a gift point, I can succeed this responsibility roll. So, okay, the Gift is there is someone near her? With an odd device? Looking like he's about to use it? yes can 2 people put 2 gifts on 1 person at the same time? If you agree, Dana, yes But you don't have to accept the Gift. I"m just trying to get straight what element Josh wants to add *nods* i understand and appreciate it* Oooooh. I have a Gift I want to add! I figured one out! It's for Ricky. So, yeah, Dana, do you want to accept the Gift of the guy near you? * Alica_Tyloni sighs in relif Go ahead and explain what it is while Dana decides if she wants Josh's gift okay. Ricky triangulated the signal, and it's pointing directly at one of the black-and-whites on the scene. Whatever he's tracking is in the car. Hmm alright. thats sounds fine - tis with a "device" right, not a gun? as I had it, yes not a gun, more like a transmitter (well, my initial plan failed, and now the guy hates me. dangit.) Okay, Gift accepted, then. Do you want to narrate this or shall I, Josh? alright. that soudns fine 1 Gift point for Josh How's about my Gift to Ricky? I'm fine with it. Mike? go ahead and narrate fine You can still use a Gift point later. Doesn't matter how hard the roll is if you can automatically make it. :) yay! I have a gift point. I'll hang on to it later :) Okay, I"ll narrate Alicia's fun, while Alexander decides if he wants to narrate Ricky's or me or Mike or whatever I'll let Mike do it if he wants, if not, you can do it Kirt. I'll brb. you Dana, give me a Responsiblity check at +2 (training) or Lapse, since there's a temptation to not follow proper procedure here. ok * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] returns. #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- You want me to narrate it, Mike? that works... very nice, dana yep heh. ok. I'll wait for an appropriate break in the tyloni story Mike, give me a Responsibility check as well. I imagine there isn't much to narrate until we know how Ricky reacts to the situation. #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- oops +2 for "heartland ethics" not that it helped So, okay, Dana, you don't Lapse, so you can do what you want -- probably report the guy over the radio while holding your position, but it's your call. After you narrate that we'll deal with Ricky Tho we all need to think what we want Ricky to do oh YEAH. I forgot that part of the rules. * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] chuckles mad-scientist-like. My vote is he decides in favor of the "officer code of silence" and reports that he's getting no signal. :) yeah, me too That's what I was thinking. Or he mentions it surreptitiously to Frix. good job me! just ruin the little kid I assume that everyone is radio-linked, BTW, especially the sniper Considering what he recently learned last session, that fits. Total code of silence. Just "hum de dum, nothing to see here." yes no, not mention it surreptitiously to frix. maybe head over privately and mention it surreptitiously to the cop(s) whose car it seems to be. I agree on the silence bit, sound good either that or he kidna tips it towards another officer, and ahve them nbote it. So, okay, do we vote that he tells Frix as an aside, or total silence? I'm all for total silence, personally, but it's up to the vote. I'd mention to Frix because he'd "know what to do" that way, he didn;lt see it, they did, not his fault. total silence wait That works, too. can I pile a gift on this? You can change your vote. how about shuts up but drops the trangulator at frix's feet? ooooh. that's good I like that one. Being a clumsy newbie on purpose. or even not on purpose Josh, what sort of Gift did you want to pile on? Right. what if he mentions it Guerrera. Team leader, and someone who will know all aboiut crooked cops oh my. mentioning it to guerrera seems to fit. drops it BETWEEN frix and gurerra! yes! ooooh very good Still on the fence, but unethically so. cool at the very moment that Alica's message comes through the comm I vote for that. Total silence, drops the equipment between Frix and Guerrera its like a double hitter - whos gunna be more active, someone who wnats to hid,e or someone who wnats to report? yeah, I like that alot How do the rest of you vote? Is that cool with y'all? fine by me I'd add "at the very moment Alica's message coems through" but even without that, sure yeah, I like that ok Mike, you want to narrate this? Or shall I? me Go on. :) ... done LOL Rock on. he! oo i have a possible gift for gurerra May i? throw it out there! go ahead! I"m all ears. The cop on the car is chris's academy buddly (and/or rival) I'd say it's more an ethical dilemma if it's a buddy buddy and friendly rival * Xiombrag nods. I was gunna say brother in law but i thought that was streching it I'm not even sure if guerrera is married, or has any siblings. yeah which is why i went with buddy Obviously, for that to be a proper dilemma Guerrera would have to pick up the triangulator and read it. But it's a valid Gift. Do you accept? I'll take it, sure. Who has Gift Points, BTW? I know there are two out there at the moment. sweet And that's a third. I have one, just now. I have one Josh gave the one to Dana. and i make three didnt' someone still have one from last session too? ricky, I think Yep, me Alexander, don't you have two? You gave the Gift where the triangulator is pointing at the car, right? I"m just tryng to get my records straight. I gave the gift where the triangulator is pointing at the car. but the one I got last session, I spent on a first aid roll (combining it with the one jason got last session) okay, right, and the third is to Dana Yes. * Alica_Tyloni writes that on her sheet. so everyone has one gift point at the moment yes word. Sorry, just so much to keep track of. no prob So, yeah, since you accepted the gift, Alexander, you want to narrate picking up the triangulator, and then I"ll narrate that it's pointing to a buddy of yours? I thought mike was gonna narrate dropping it first? did and then you can give me a Responsiblity check -- no bonus for Honor, I could see that as going either way He did, pop over and look oh, there it is I popped over briefly, saw "Tyloni" and thought nothing had changed. Silly me. its ok so, yeah, pick up the thing in indie_nar and roll me Responsibility, baby brb -- getting water #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- Pow, no Lapse. React how you want. aww darn boyscot strikes again. *scout damn little scotsmen scotsmen can't play tennis "If it's not Scottish, it's crap!" scotsmen? typo joke, don't worry about it How does Christian react? Note that you can always CHOOSE to do a bad thing, even without a Lapse. :) yes Can I consider this a gift? I'm sharing the information with my fellow lieutenant. That might cause a lapse. wait, gift for me? yes for you now you know about the whole transmitter pointing at another cop thing. it seems like a potential gift. sure, I'll accept it, if you flesh it out a bit Well, it's only a Gift if you're adding a detail to the scene to cause the dilemma. Just having your character act doesn't count, I think. But it still might cause a Lapse. okay. um. the cop was the first on the scene when his wife and kid died. ooh heavy stuff how about the cop was the one who didn't take advantage of a shot to prevent that from happeneing Okay, now THAT is a Gift. * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] grins. Why was she worried again? Sheesh either way yeah really worried? is that the gift, then? I knew Dana would be great at this style of play. :) yes, that's the gift. you knwo deadly hesitation and all that okay I'm assuming you want a responsibility check? yes the dreaded responsibility check So, okay, just so I"m clear, what's the exact gift? The cop who owns the squad car is the same one who was first on the scene when Jason's wife died, and could have taken a shot to prevent it? yes and that's two separate gifts, I think. mine was "cop who was on the first scene" and tyloni's was "he didn't take a shot he could have." we each get a gift point Okay, so, Josh accepts, another Gift point for Alexander, as the core idea was his I'll narrate Jason's "revelation" for the "audience" yay! * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] is the audience *blink* soo did i get it or no? le tme think on that alright no sweat you're definitely getting the game yes. now that i;m in the swing of things i feel better i really need ne white out We're not nearly as evil as they say we are. What do people think? That's the first time two people have contributed to a Gift like that. Shoud Dana get a Gift Point, too? we're worse. and better. 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I"m happy to give it to her now and we can discuss the rule implications later. sounds fine I don't object No objection here heh well what were you expecting? Mike is outvoted even if he does object. :) so anyway, is Kirt requiring a responsibility roll, or not? I object! OK, I only abstain. Yes, Jason, you need to check for a lapse #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- I'd call that a failure using my gift point Ah! You make it, then. :) good call React as you choose. :) anyway After you react we will continue with the action in the bank. :) *** Signoff: Jason_Frix (gryphon.magicstar.net Galaxy.Magicstar.Net) Ooop, lost Josh again okay, that's a sign. go to action in the bank ooo, i got another gift idea..... we;ll wait.. nah.. nm ok - sense or do i still have the automatic +5 from before?> Still have the +5 Guts check at +5 to shoot ok #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- ack oh....crap.... 2 gift poitns to reroll *** suffusion (~kashij@squirtle-23.dynamic.rpi.edu) has joined channel #indie_ooc *** suffusion is now known as Jason_Frix hmm i;m tempted to. with 20, he might "gift" you with a headshot what did I miss? the sniper blowing her +5 bounus Technically, you can spend 2 gift points to auto-succeed, but you need to do that before you roll It's becoming obvious I need to clarify this in the text ;-D heh it's more dramatic afterwards what happened? our sniper rolled a 20 on her shot roll i got a 20 on my +5 guts check I've been allowing you guys to do that because it is dramatic... but I dunno if I want it to be the rule or not who was she shooting? the guy in the bank um the perp in the bank, he started shouting and pushed the woman down I lost it right after I went and talked to officer Rodriguez "Why don't we take a look in your car, Officer" The man in the bank throws the woman down on the ground and starts shouting at the tellers. Rodriguez quirks an eyebrow. "As you wish, sir." *** Signoff: Jason_Frix (gryphon.magicstar.net Galaxy.Magicstar.Net) * Alica_Tyloni mutters/ guys! we got action!! * Alica_Tyloni mutters "guys! we got action!" "Tyloni, can you get him in the leg? I'd rather not kill him. Everyone else, let's hustle. Ricky, get your tools." * Alica_Tyloni understood, takign the shot. okay and then she rolled a 20 ah can I gift Guerrera with something? Tell you what, I"ll allow a reroll for 2 Gift points. Not an auto-success, like it would be if you spent 'em before, but a reroll. sure, Gifts are always welcome oh, that should only be 1 gift point but either way. I'll take a gift Gift Points are mainly for Responsibility rolls alright. that sounds fair. it'd be 1 Gift point to reroll a REsponsibility roll still with my +5? yeah, still with +5 I thought it's 1 giftpoint to succeed a responsibility? ok yeah, before you roll that was my intent this isn;t resonsibilty./ its guts Rodriguez starts to fight with Frix, tearing Guerrera between supporting a buddy, a fellow SWAT, or dealing with the situatrion in the bank rerolling btw #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- YAY! interesting gift, what do you think Alexander much better I'll narrate the hit hmm out of curiousity, kirt, what would you have done on a 20? death of the perp, or just a total miss? head explodey bomb would still be there, govered in gore and then someon could have gifted the whole team with transmitte rboy pressing the button heh or something I'll take Jason's gift, btw or trasnitter boy firing at the sniper curisng in italian K, I'll narrate him picking a fight and then Alexander can make a Responsiblity check #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- yay yay for the boy scot! Guerrera MacLeod save LOL nice desc Mike lol Bomb suits are nothing to laugh at! So, react how you like, Alexander -- it's still a tricky sitation and you're leader I know. But that's what he was going to say before, so I wanted to get that out of the way. Grr, damn tricky situations. no time to aim, Dana, so raw Guts unless you want to take the time how fast is he moving? Gift! ack! another gift? gift? yeep Go on. :) Mike, what's the Gift? whos it for? The hand is waving about making for a harder shot. She might be tempted to take along time aiming to make her skill look better. coveirng her arse. :-) sure, that's acceptable. Dana, do you accept the Gift? Yes okay, I've got a gift for Jason Somebody's gonna get sho-ot 1 Gift Point (GP -- heh) for Mike throw it at me Lx roll resonsability? yup #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- Aw go ahead w/ your gift desc, Alexander Rodriguez pulls his gun. And it's not standard issue. And he's more than willing to use it. Okay, so, as I said, Dana, raw Guts check for the fast shot, if that's what you want to do alright then #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- okay, i accept. What's the ethical dilemma there? That he's a fellow cop? damn,,,,, yup. he's a fellow cop. who might not even be doing anything wrong (we don't know yet) I'm the sniper who can;t shoot. dont worry for a different dilemma - he doesn't pull a gun, but Jason catches the gang colors of the gang who shot his wife, somewhere prominent inside the car. Guerrera's the negotiater who can't talk and the leader who cant lead btu he sure can give gifts... and jason's the leader who didn't lead and ricky might not even make it to his first bomb which Gift do you want to propose, Alexander? jason, how about that 2nd dilemma? it seems more ethical. I'll propose that one. Josh? Do you accept? I'll accept it word woot 3 gift points 2 GP 0 gp hmm does standing up out of anger need a roll? and if I want, I can exchange my gp for sp. but there's no cp, and certainly no electrum Lesse, that's 40,000 tin pieces. wait LOL and then there's iron pieces in the car, or somewhere around? in the car Steel blacksmiths love getting paid with iron pieces Jason, give me Responsibilty -- +5 because you already have somone who MUST PAY in front of you ;-D #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- using gift point afte ryou roll.... Where did you want the gang colors, Alexander? am I supposed to use it before? that's a reroll, then inside the car, but easily seen there. 'kay yeah, you might have been out when we discussed it #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- anyway, remember to keep a point for the end of the session, where you'll have to spend to see if your responsibility goes down Do you even have a Gift Point? I thought you used it to prevent the last lapse. I got another the whole reason I'm fighting with this guy Oh, right, you proposed that one? yeah right K gifts are fun to propose was supposed to eb a gift for Guerrera, but he turned it aorund :) yeah, so you made your roll, no LApse isn't that the fun of gifts, frisky? ;) wait, hold on nevermind uhm, if a chratcers temper flares does she have to roll anything? do what you want you had +5 I'm good, I'm good but I'm gonna shoot Rodriguez So, yeah, the action is in your hands, kids. What is everyone doing? shooting like to roll instinct first using law of currency You can do that. #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- ook, fail I'm heading in. One way or another. Probably pairing myself with Ricky, so I can get him in close with the bomb. thats a guts -1? -2, you round up, (20 -17) I;m tkaing a head shot - sense for bounus then guts, opr straight guts? oh, right or (21 -17) actually -- degree of failure #okay, rolling for guts #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- But you hit anyway. Who you shooting? The perp, I assume? (in the bank) no, Rodriguez frix was shooting rodregues I;m waiting to either stright shoot or aim shoot the perp your call, Dana. Or Christian's call, depending. I'm waiting for Alica to say what she's doing. since I asked her. Right, I there it is, shooting Rodriguez since I used instinct befor ehte shot, I need a lapse check, right? Rodriquez is Down, BTW -- just the kind of Down where you scream a lot ok no, no Lapse check unless you double the bonus, I think... let me double check that yeah only if he doubles 'hokay How come in my mind he's saying "I've been shot" like Buckwheat would. I'm gunna aim/shoot. thats soudns ok alex? Eddie Murphy? yeah, you can always use your Instinct for a bonus, no Lapse unless you double, it's the big advantage of low Responsiblity technically, a sniper only shoots when given the "go" but you can certainly aim alright sense and I"m not going to stop you from shooting, just giving you police procedure Yup #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- out of 14 +6 to your next shot assuming the guy doesn't move And he ain't going far with a bullet in his leg Alex, if you Christian and Ricky are going in, feel free to narrate that. the guy is still shooting wildly. Narrate the aiming. Well, since she got the go, narrate the aim and fire. Roll Guts at +6 Gift!!! -2 because the hand is a hard target Go ahead, Josh. :) heh, the sniper is begging to do a headshot As the perp is flailing about, his hand is eclipsed by one of the bank tellers, in order to shoot the gun out of the hand, Alica will have to shoot through the teller that is so evil.... your call if you want it the proper response to that is "thank you, I am evil" oh thank you, I am evil So, Dana, do you accept the gift? You can always veto. :) alright. that soudns like gmae, and realistic. tho I have to admit I like that one, even if it reminds me of the SWAT movie 1 GP for Josh I haven't seen that one yet Me neither. Saw it last Friday. Well aren't you special. So, okay, Dana, give me a Responsibility check roll response? k not really, I wasn't very impressed #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- LASPE ....DAGUH! er, LAPSE lisp! or you can reroll for one GP this invovles the insticnt modifyer, right? ALPSE? i have no more this involves us getting to say exactly what alica does Head shot " points descreetly to the "screw em all" on her char sheet. ah, yes, you are right head shot, definatly head shot, oh yes LOL I"ll vote for the head shot -- there's even a twisted justification: it saves the civilian, who she had to shoot through for the hand shot exactly I'll narrate this, unless anyone objects. plus it's what she really WANTED Well, yes, that's how it works. :) true, when she gets angry shes gets blood thirsy Nice to have a job that allows her to indulge her sociopathic side. don't we all wish we had one? hehe yes right on though on the flips side, she runs the risk opf being exposed So, yeah, everyone is welcome to react. :) thats why I joined the postal force Okay, kids, here's the question: What's up with the squad car? I'm happy to invent something here, but you guys sort of invented this plot. My idea was the guy with the transmitter put a relay under the squad car when no one was looking. But I'm open to input. :) bomb! yes, relay wired to a bomb she IS bloodthirsty ooh, good one, now Alica can claim she misheard Josh, make a Sense check for Jason -- we need to know how long he takes to find it #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- Workmanlike so when does he find it? Can I make a sense roll to assess the situation? Mack Owenthal was the former bomb officer for this squad before he got blown up, as per Ricky's background. I know I read up, you know He's searching. There's time for other people to do stuff first. Read up? Ricky gave a name? I missed that. Yep hopefully ricky does a better job than mack did on the last one Yeah, way back when Mike posted his background to the list LOL mmm marshmellows ooh Thinking about it, it was an awful lot like this situation. Spooky. TOASTY marchmallows Not toasty yet. noo quite one sec, getting a drink yeah, Mike, you can do a sense check to assess the situation No drinking! #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- kewl Narrate me up some situation, GM man. Well, someone with a transmitter could set the bomb off at any minute. Alicia's suggestion would only work with certain kinds of explosives. yeha And god only knows what the exploding head has done to the bomb mechanism. Could be good, could be bad. dudes we gotta take care of transmitter boy? does he have a gun? can he shoot us? cna he shoot me? Up to you, Mike, how much you communicate of that IC. But that's what you know. I told Candace to neutralize transmitter boy. All Candace has been reporting is the guy is holding his transmitter and laughing. Did you, I missed that. [19:33:03] "Neutralize the guy, Candace. We're going in." Can I Gift myself? doesn;t that defeat the point? yes, it defeats the point, I think I'm not so sure. But anyhow... Somebody Gift me already. okay Here's one. I'll mdo it Soon as you touch the bomb, it "clicks." If you let go, it'll explode. You can gift yourself but you get no Gift points for it. :) wait, no. that's not moral enough, is it? * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] laughs. "A sniping, maybe?" Not really. Tho you can still suggest it. If everyone agrees, it becomes reality, just no Gift point. alica turned out evil in a diffeent way then i expected.... soon as yhe touches ht ebomb, it clicks. He has a limited amount of time to defuse it, if he doesn't everyone in there will die What's the alternative? taking it outside but that means you go go? kaboom Boom? toasty of course, you might not DIE OK, I accept. (and here I thought Jason would be the first to die this session) #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- ouch Lapse What do I do? 3GP or 1 GP for reroll oops 2 GP reroll no reroll dman boy... don't want one ahh I say he tries to defuse it Ricky runs. He doesn't even bother warning anyone, he just runs. There's no chance to defuse the bomb in time, and there's not enough time to evac everyone. whats his descriptor? Okay, well, narrate going up to the bomb. I'll narrate the beeping. And meanwhile we need to decide what Ricky does then. Ricky runs. He doesn't even bother warning anyone, he just runs. There's no chance to defuse the bomb in time, and there's not enough time to evac everyone. er, sorry for the double dang irc heh I like guerras idea. he chokes, BIG TIME. How's that a Lapse Cowardace can be a Lapse. morally? you're choosing saving yourself over saving others. Oh, runs sans bomb right yes. Ahh hmm you just dart out of there like a waddling toddler learning how to run (what with the suit and all) I'm gonna abstain fromt his vote run like hell I vote for that as well. and I have a fun litlte bonus for that. But narrate walking up to the bomb first. :) I realize, doing this, that I might be signing Guerrera's death warrant if he can't run fast enough. I /know/ I'm signing several civvy warrants. hmmm does the bomb have a switch/ you gonna shoot the switch off? maybe that or a wrie, some visable nonexplosive component any reason to snipe we'll get to that when it happens yeah really. sorry, but i don;t trust your skills so far let's get Ricky TO the bomb first *sweatdrop* I trust the dice of this whole team, really, to fail when we most need them. LOL Murphy's law You said you're narrating the approach, Loki? given the past few rolls, i actualy see your point Sorry, Ithought you were. Then I narrate the bomb beeping. And you narrate running. Unless you want to do it differently. I just think that looks cleaner in the log. :) No, that's fine, just misunderstood. Word. doom Mike, you there? Kids bugging you? :) go Only one kid, and he's in Arizona this week. So no bugging going on. Heh. I apologize for my impatience. :) I just can't wait to add my surprise after Ricky runs. oh no go bet you thought I forgot about Jason's search yeah nice though Ricky runs from one bomb to another oi vey.. translation: what is that complete moron doing!? oy ghevalt wow, helping evacuate how heroic yeah, I know. sooo not in the spirit of this particular SWAT team ;) Portuguese? Not Spanish. Ricky gets another Responsbibllyt check to prevent another Lapse, i.e. if he Lapses he probably keeps running italian Italian, maybe #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- its italian. NArrating what is? "oi vey"? Yiddish oi vey is definatly yiddish so what's italian? * Alica_Tyloni looks in shock "che cosa quel moron completo sta facendo?!?" ah I thought you were just ranslating "oi vey" no! the oi vey was how everything was going to heck in a handbasket theni translated * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] nods. see shes italian... So, okay, Mike, no Lapse, do what you want. Which CAN be to keep running. Everyone needs to decide how they're reacting. I"ll narrate for the NPCs. He can run in the face of ME, but not in the face of everyone else. *sniff* already done I've already described my reaction. Crowd control, hanging back until I can get as many other people out as possible. sinc ei;m on a roof its sit watch shake head Sense roll to check the other bomb? Dana, with two bombs Alicia could be in the blast radius, even where she is. Sense or Savvy, whicheer you prefer Oh, how about Savvy #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- neet Very good. This device is simpler than the other one -- you can stop it by clipping a single wire. Is that a Casey Casem? so who got the point for the neck bomb? re LBUE one.... not that I"m telling you what to do, Dana, just informing you of the situation ;-D I think I did Lx What is Jason doing? I suggested it first, but Jason also contributed. I vote, again, that we both get a Gift Point. true, but she;d like to return home to fiancee in one piece. sure Her Financee? 1 GP for both of you one day, when it becomes important to the plot, I'll decide what sort of home life Christian has yay. thanks kirt. I'm pulling Rodriguez toward sanother car. he's handcuffed okay, so if I have this right it's Christian 4 GP Jason 2 GP Ricky 2 GP Alica 0 GP, right up right right on my end Oh, yes, Alica has a fiance. next time I negotiate, I'm gonna spend a GP to succeed that responsibility roll. dangit. yep heh yeah that woudl help seeing as you are the negotiator and all Mike, narrate the wire clipping and then something else will happen boom? wait for it unless you don't WANT to clip the wire thats just wrong heh "Hmmm, nah, I'll leave the wire unclipped. Let's just wait for it to explode." ROTFL * Alica_Tyloni falls over laughing where are the others standing about? * Christian_Guerrera[Lx] is still inside the building, next to the Headless Bomber Jason is next to Ricky Alica is gone, as are the NPC squad members ok poor christian Jason is dragging Rodriguez to a place where he will be pciked up by other police done hmm would it be a gift to have Alica have said that loud enough for everyone to hear? whops near her? i don;t think shes near anyone feel free to narrate that, Josh I meant radio Mike can narrate the bomb thing whenever he wants. :) brb, dog needs to go out OH.. uhm. you mena she left the radio on by mistake., I dunno if it would be a Gift but you can have your char "accidentlaly" do anything you want yeah it doesn't have to be a gift for a point, but I'd like to have it happen Dana's call. if its ok done narrating bomb a long time ago. sure, though don;t be surprised by a cover sorry, missed it Okay, kids, I believe that is a Meat check for Jason, Ricky, and Christian, give me a sec and I"ll come up with mods Ricky, +5 because of the suit and you're outside Jason, that's a raw Guts check for you, at least you're outside -10 for Christian, as he is inside #roll 1d20+5 -RPGServ- Now, I will point out that 2 Gift Points automatically make a roll oops #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- success! * Alica_Tyloni holds up a "save the wild gurerra flag" that's not how it works, is it. #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- I'm back Saved by suit dude, you exploded roll guts with -10 ack I'm gonna spend 2 gift points to automatically succeed that check smark boi *smart I like smark. "Smart, yet snarky." Heh, good call. Smarky? All of you are Tagged, but not Down. what would have happened to me if I'd failed? Lucky for you, no one is shooting at you. I sense a stuntman flying throuygh the air. Awh yeah. :) I'll narrate that. I'm gonna sprint in to help Guerrera Did I at least get everyone ELSE out? You evacuated MOST of the people good Some of your fellow officers were hurt I tried my best, at least for the civvies inside. at least your alive..... and now, my reward, the damn reporters are going to hound me for surviving good idea hehe! JAson not Guerrera because Christian was blown clear soo now what/ I say thats a scene camera mounted on helicopter sooms out. banks in flames, lights and sirens everywhere Where am I? 99th street you ran and ran Candace and the other guy? dude form union square to 99th? thats like 85 block I know. I was being facetious. he's still there, I narrated him back in sorry about that, my bad Now /that/ can be scene. ok. uhm, i gotta take a bit of an extrended abscne and shower =( shall we stop there, then? i'll be back in, give or take 15 mins. I'm pretty much done for tonight I didcool cool, that is well have them try to get ricky up in the meantime. Alica, can you stay for a sec for experience? I'll try *** Christian_Guerrera[Lx] is now known as Lxndr *** Ricky is now known as MHolmes *** Alica_Tyloni is now known as Dana_mun *** Jason_Frix is now known as suffusion K. As per last session, we're doing experience every session so people can decide how often it shoudl actually happen everyone roll Savvy to see if it goes up -- it goes up if you FAIL k everyone gets 1 SP #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- #roll 1d20 #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- -RPGServ- and everyone who Lapsed needs to roll Responsibilty #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- can I roll responsibility for my heroic action? oops #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- ok thats one savvy point right? yes, Alexander, you can. thanks for reminding me haha #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- yup yay! ok. and now i role resonsability? #roll 1d20 -RPGServ- okay +! Savvy for Dana, +1 Responsibility for Alexander so I don't savvy any more, but I'm more responsible (and I lost touch with my instinct side) and -1 responsiblity for Dana daugh so Mike gets +1 savvy, and... no responsibility change? Lose one responsibility yes ah, loss no if that 11 is his response he failed ok right +1 Savvy and -1 Responsibility for Mike and jason frix lapsed once too, right? he got a savvy, but he hasn't rolled his responsibility yet and everyone gets a Descriptor I thought Jason passed all his Responsibilty checks I could be wrong, tho Did he? I thought his last one, he finally lapsed. I don't remember though. I use one GP for one I used anothe GP to reroll and made the reroll, right? right so he's good my new Meat descriptor is going to be some variation of "survived a falling bank" people don't have to spend Story Points or gain the new Desc right now I will.. get back to you on the descripter as soon as i get out formt he shower..... my savvy is 14, I rolled 14 so no more savvy *** Dana_mun is now known as dana_mun_away I have to leave, but I'll see guys next week? yeah Yep, later. g'nite josh *** Signoff: suffusion (Quit: ) yeah, no problem * Lxndr ponders a nifty way to say "survived a falling bank" "even a exploding bank can't kill 'em" * dana_mun_away slinks back for a second = "does his own stunts?" oooh I like that one "does his own stunts" Sure, I'll allow that -- that's your new Meat desc, right? Too Extreme Vengeance yes and I'm spending my story points to increase my Meat from 8 to 10 You object, Mike? If Mike objects, you can't do it. We have to agree. no objection sigh :-) meat 10, ok his references are going over our head, I think Yeah, I"m fine with "even an exploding bank can't kill him" instead Extreme Vengeance? RPG where you play an action movie actor? I don't own Extreme Vengeance but I've heard of it. never heard of it Seminal in terms of certain things. ah Coincidence as a stat. who publish(ed) it? oooh, that's a neat stat so, okay, "does own stunts" unless Mike peeps again The other stat is Guts, go figure. Can't remember the publisher, but I remember that I should remember. archangel the people who also did zero (Link: http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showbook&bookid=1101)http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showbook&bookid=1101 I was about to say the same thing, Archangel yeah, that's where I just looked it up bbiab Now Zero, I own that. I regret not picking it up Both important games. Mike, do you want to do anything with Ricky ATM? I hope you didn't feel all the Gifts stole Ricky's limelight too much. Also, what do people think of my ad hoc ruling about rerolls? Should it be possible to spend Gift Points as normal after a roll, or not? I'm good. I got plenty of entertainment outta Ricky and friends. Good, glad to hear it. While this is a playtest, I want people to have fun. :) What do you get from spending a point before the roll? a reroll, honestly, isn't as worth-it as a guaranteed success. I think you should be able to spend gift points as normal, for a free success before or after. that's my gut feeling, anyway. I dunno, it's a gamble as is. Roll, and be potentially forced to pay again if you want another roll, or just pay up front. Okay, the current system is 1 SP for an autosuccess for Responsiblilty and 2 SP for autosucces on anything else. I intended thsse to be spent before the roll but didn't make that clear in the text. So I made an ad hoc ruling that 1 SP gets you a reroll on Respon and 2 SP gets you a reroll on anything else --- after the roll. back true, mike, there's that *** dana_mun_away is now known as dana_mun why the mun, if I may be so bold? I think that Ricky is in a good place to be in, in terms of having to explain himself next time. Will he come clean, or try to hide behind the "Code"? Neat. * Lxndr nods. its an old term form my early days in freform chat rps, a mun was a man under name - the occ controler its kinda become a nickname aha If he does hide, will the other officers protect him, or is he too new to have been accepted? good points plus theres alicas capo comment Lots of potential. Christian is certainly in a bind. "Do I protect the guy who, if he'd acted right, would have likely saved the building from coming down ON MY HEAD?!" Well, and he's not the sort to lie for someone anyhow. OTOH, he might be a "second chance" kinda guy. Which Frix is not. very true plus his view of the head-shot fiasco with tyloni - he doesn't think she misheard alcias opinion of the people... not veyr high. and i expect thats been reciprocated But now we're "playing before we play". So let's cut it here, shall we? okay k wait, i ahve to do stuff, right? Heh. But worth thinking about. Clearing out to the chatroom. decide on a descriptor, and maybe spend a story point *** MHolmes has left #indie_ooc YOu can do it now or later. i think i got ideas really - under instinct, a new descriptor - "gets carried away" Yeah. A new descriptor to add to one Attribute, and you can up or lower an attribute with the Story Point, if you want. good one btw, kirt, my thoughts so far mechanically on XP (subject to major change): don't hand out story points, ever. let players decide whether or not to trade in their gift points for story points, and when. I'm not sure how that ties in with "when do you get a new descriptor?" gunna up guts. triygn to prevent the "sniper who can;t snipe" uhm.. well, it makes as much sense as "hand out a story point every TEN sessions." maybe a story point should be a reward for resisting lapses without the use of gift points? or with let me suggest this: Alexander, that's an interesting idea, especially given how much the Gift Points were flowing * don't hand out story points * at the end of each session, AFTER any rolls for responsibility, etc., players get 1 gift point okay, dana, guts is up, and your savvy went up by 1 and responsibility down by 1 (as I said before) -- which causes instinct to go up by 1 yes you guts are high, actually, you just got unlucky so i;m 13, 14, 13 7, 9, 11 (perhaps phrase that as: at the beginning of each session, players get 1 gift point) yes guts of 13 is good. 65% chance of succeeding, more with aiming ok good *nod8 which is needed for a sniper you have to HIT the thing hmmm, 1 gift point a session, interesting. Certainly would make the downward spiral slower how often does a character get a new descriptor? every session, "normally"? under the base rules, once every 5 sessions you get a new descriptor and make the Savvy roll rather than every session as we have been * Lxndr nods. you don't mention the # of sessiosn normally anywhere in the playtest document, I don't think either way... handing out gift points could replace savvy and meat checks (hey, do I get a meat roll for "lots of physical activity" in the explosion?). and maybe new descriptors too, if you can buy them with gift points. in other words, turn all character advancement into "how you spend your gift points" More incentives for gifts. if you get 1 gift point a session, that's (assuming you break even otherwise) 1 story point every 3 sessions. that "should" be enough to raise traits and/or choose descriptors. it feels right. get rid of the savvy check, get rid of the meat check, get rid of automatic descriptors. just spend gift points. also, a suggestion: after a roll, you may not spend gift points to succeed it automatically. however, only 1 gift point is spent to reroll, no matter what sort of roll it is. it's there, it's just buried in the char advancement section (the # of sessions) * Lxndr searches ah, there it is its "suggested" as it's unplaytested heh take my suggestion in mind. 1 gp at the start of each session, no savvy rolls or meat rolls or new descriptors, just spend your gp for that stuff and you cna still earn gp normally throughout the game? of course *nod8 the "1gp/session" is basically meant to replace "make these rolls every five sessions or so, and get these points every ten sessions or so, and choose a new descriptor every five sessions." now it's just "gift points, and how you spend 'em" Very interesting. The Savvy roll is because it's supposed to be a Narr/Sim mixed game, and that' s very Sim, IMHO. But it seems to be leaning more Narr in the end. I'm suggesting more out of a desire for simplification than any hatred of sim. :) Heh. and it focuses play a bit more on the gift points, if handing out gifts is the only way to advance, in addition to everything else they're good for It's a very interesting idea. plus the question: "do I sacrifice three gift points for a bonus of ONE to a statistic?" sounds good to me I guess we'll see what Mike thinks when I post the logs for this game on the Forge ;-D I guess so. i can;t wait for that. i wanna see people reactions to the total newbie you were great seriously anyway, I'd be interested to hear Mike's take on my suggestion. Shall we move to the indierpgs room? sure good ide *** dana_mun has left #indie_ooc *** Lxndr has left #indie_ooc